Candidate for banned in Legacy but not in Modern?
I know there are others, but I remember some stigma about it being a good frame of reference.
Candidate for banned in Legacy but not in Modern?
WoTc made the first 2 cmc walker Tibalt laughably weak.. this time they made up for that by making their second 2 cmc walker incredibly strong.
I meant that a ban in Legacy might appear to set a precedence for it getting a ban in Modern. I remember some talk about how these have seemed to cascade down the chain after WotC makes a decision about the type of interaction it's promoting. I think it's certainly in the realm of Modern discussion because of how we've seen a few things in the past get banned. Probe and DRS for examples... though now that I think about it, I don't remember which direction that ban chain started. Was it Modern then Legacy or Legacy then Modern?
Probe was actually Modern, then Vintage and then finally Legacy, so there was a period of time where Legacy was an awkward middle child that still had Probe legal. When it was limited in Vintage, they made a note in the announcement that they wouldn't ban Probe in Legacy just because it was banned in both Modern and Vintage:Arkmer wrote: ↑4 years agoI meant that a ban in Legacy might appear to set a precedence for it getting a ban in Modern. I remember some talk about how these have seemed to cascade down the chain after WotC makes a decision about the type of interaction it's promoting. I think it's certainly in the realm of Modern discussion because of how we've seen a few things in the past get banned. Probe and DRS for examples... though now that I think about it, I don't remember which direction that ban chain started. Was it Modern then Legacy or Legacy then Modern?
In other words, a card banned in Legacy doesn't directly lead to a ban in Modern if their data doesn't support taking actionOf note is that Legacy is currently the only tournament format where we have not taken action against Gitaxian Probe. Currently, the data does not support doing so in that format, and we examine each format individually.
Yeah right, but luckily he is not that overpowered in Modern IMO. The format knows how to deal with him.FoodChainGoblins wrote: ↑4 years agoYeah it's interesting to see what cards like Dreadhorde Arcanist and Wrenn and Six have done to Legacy.
I saw the results of a local 34 person Legacy tournament where 4-5 of the top 8 decks ran Dreadhorde Arcanist. That scared me.
Oh lord, that would create a lot more misery i guessspawnofhastur wrote: ↑4 years agoIf Wrenn and Six becomes oppressive, we all know the hero we need...
DRS.
I don't think so. Maybe they dodged matchups that were heavily suited to fight GY strats, or a majority of players expected a decline in GY decks and so on. I also think that 2 out of 8 is totally fine. But sure, a 8/8 on turn 2 is still a strong play. Remember to pack your grave hate fellas!robertleva wrote: ↑4 years agoAm I the only one who thinks 2 hogaak decks making top 8 is a warning sign the ban wasn't enough?
Eldrazi still put up results after Eye of Ugin got ban. Amulet Titan still put up results after Summer Bloom ban.robertleva wrote: ↑4 years agoAm I the only one who thinks 2 hogaak decks making top 8 is a warning sign the ban wasn't enough?
That would be Chemotherapy - Killing Cancer with Poison.spawnofhastur wrote: ↑4 years agoIf Wrenn and Six becomes oppressive, we all know the hero we need...
DRS.
I agree. I know Maro has said that he/they don't plan on doing anything about being able to interact with PW emblems, but I hope one day that changes as well. Maybe even an enchantment or something similar to Witchbane Orb that removes all current emblems affecting you.cfusionpm wrote: ↑4 years agoPlaneswalkers are super awkward to interact with because a lot of old cards that could or should interact with them can't, simply because the card didn't exist when it was printed. Templating and modal spells since then have helped, but like, if PWs are going to be the future of Magic, there needs to be a LOT more ways to remove.