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Krishnath Mechanical Dragon
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I think everyone picking their two favorites from the other participants (not picking any of their own), then making a figuring out which suggestion of each participant got the most votes, then making a poll with the most popular entry by each of us (thus having eight entries, one per person) seems like the best idea.
I.e. I pick my two favorites from void_nothing, two from SecretInfiltrator, two from Feyd_Ruin, etc. And everyone else doing the same from everyone except them selves would work.
Using myself as an example, it might get broken down like this:
Shattered Realm - 5 votes
Cave World - 7 votes
Five Families - 2 votes
Thus my entry in the final poll would be Cave World as it is the clear winner from my entries. Since everyone votes on two entries per person, it would always end up a total of 14 votes for any given person. Should any entry end up a tie, we could have a vote off for those two entries.
Then when each person has a clear popular entry, it would just be a matter of doing a Top 8 vote.
I.e. I pick my two favorites from void_nothing, two from SecretInfiltrator, two from Feyd_Ruin, etc. And everyone else doing the same from everyone except them selves would work.
Using myself as an example, it might get broken down like this:
Shattered Realm - 5 votes
Cave World - 7 votes
Five Families - 2 votes
Thus my entry in the final poll would be Cave World as it is the clear winner from my entries. Since everyone votes on two entries per person, it would always end up a total of 14 votes for any given person. Should any entry end up a tie, we could have a vote off for those two entries.
Then when each person has a clear popular entry, it would just be a matter of doing a Top 8 vote.
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One planevote on each person would be a little quicker and less "these two from Feyd, because his third idea sucked" :laugh:
BUT if we did 2 votes and skipped to the top 8, it's still just as quick?
I do, however, directly vote we don't make any more test cards yet. We still have a lot of preplanning to do, and I don't want that to become too skewed or influenced by just a couple random early ideas. Other people's interpretations will also be different, and we need to really flesh out what we're doing and agree on before we jump into card design.
BUT if we did 2 votes and skipped to the top 8, it's still just as quick?
I do, however, directly vote we don't make any more test cards yet. We still have a lot of preplanning to do, and I don't want that to become too skewed or influenced by just a couple random early ideas. Other people's interpretations will also be different, and we need to really flesh out what we're doing and agree on before we jump into card design.
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That's a good idea! I like going to the top 8 from tallying all the votes to keep things quick. I agree with Feyd_Ruin about the test cards as well, we're still a long ways off and I kinda jumped the gun by making those, since they don't really have any bearing on what the set will actually look like after design and development.
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Krishnath Mechanical Dragon
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Gotta agree with Feyd_Ruin about the test cards, the less early influence before world building the better in my opinion.
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is this good? out of all of them, the space set and the cave set are my favorites.
krishnath
1. The Shattered Realm
2. Cave World
secret infiltrator
The Alternate Reality of Mirrodin Pure The Sharpest Steel is Tempered in Fire.
Righteous War: The Realms of Light and Dark are Waging a Proxy War in he Mortal Realm for Too Long.
venedrex
1. Ocean World
3. Gritty Steampunk themed set
void nothing
2. Druidic world
3. Innistrad Frozen Over
monoredmage
1 - Epic fantasy world.
2 - World of temperature extremes with some regions being extremely hot and some extremely cold.
feyd ruin
2. Marit Lage Awakens
3. Space Set
krishnath
1. The Shattered Realm
2. Cave World
secret infiltrator
The Alternate Reality of Mirrodin Pure The Sharpest Steel is Tempered in Fire.
Righteous War: The Realms of Light and Dark are Waging a Proxy War in he Mortal Realm for Too Long.
venedrex
1. Ocean World
3. Gritty Steampunk themed set
void nothing
2. Druidic world
3. Innistrad Frozen Over
monoredmage
1 - Epic fantasy world.
2 - World of temperature extremes with some regions being extremely hot and some extremely cold.
feyd ruin
2. Marit Lage Awakens
3. Space Set
That looks great dangerous, although I think you forgot to vote for folding_music.
I'll put in my votes as well:
folding_music
1. High artifact plane with diluted mana.
2. Plane focused on a single country undergoing an artistic revolution.
dangerousdice:
1. World where everything can be taken to court due to law magic.
2. Muraganda
Krishnath:
1. The Shattered Realm.
2. Cave World.
SecretInfiltrator:
1. The recut past: Shandalar.
2. Mirrodin Pure.
void_nothing:
1. Druidic World
2. Innistrad frozen over.
MonoRedMage:
1. Epic Fantasy World.
2. Wildlands of Theros.
Feyd_Ruin:
1. Marit Lage Awakens.
2. Space Set.
I'll put in my votes as well:
folding_music
1. High artifact plane with diluted mana.
2. Plane focused on a single country undergoing an artistic revolution.
dangerousdice:
1. World where everything can be taken to court due to law magic.
2. Muraganda
Krishnath:
1. The Shattered Realm.
2. Cave World.
SecretInfiltrator:
1. The recut past: Shandalar.
2. Mirrodin Pure.
void_nothing:
1. Druidic World
2. Innistrad frozen over.
MonoRedMage:
1. Epic Fantasy World.
2. Wildlands of Theros.
Feyd_Ruin:
1. Marit Lage Awakens.
2. Space Set.
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Krishnath Mechanical Dragon
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My votes:
folding_music:
1. High artifact plane.
2. Country undergoing cultural revolution.
dangerousdice:
2. Muraganda! (the exclamation point is very important)
3. Ravnica vs. Phyrexia.
SecretInfiltrator:
1. The Recut Past: Shandalar (I loved that game, to bad it was buggy as heck.)
2. Mirrodin Pure
Venedrex:
1. Ocean World
3. Gritty Steampunk
void_nothing:
2. Druidic world
3. Innistrad on ice. (lol)
MonoRedMage:
1. Epic Fantasy
2. Temperature Extremes.
Feyd_Ruin:
2. Marit Lage Awakens
3. Space Set (Sounds like MTG's equivalent to Spelljammer.)
folding_music:
1. High artifact plane.
2. Country undergoing cultural revolution.
dangerousdice:
2. Muraganda! (the exclamation point is very important)
3. Ravnica vs. Phyrexia.
SecretInfiltrator:
1. The Recut Past: Shandalar (I loved that game, to bad it was buggy as heck.)
2. Mirrodin Pure
Venedrex:
1. Ocean World
3. Gritty Steampunk
void_nothing:
2. Druidic world
3. Innistrad on ice. (lol)
MonoRedMage:
1. Epic Fantasy
2. Temperature Extremes.
Feyd_Ruin:
2. Marit Lage Awakens
3. Space Set (Sounds like MTG's equivalent to Spelljammer.)
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thanks <3 voting for:
dangerousdice's law magic world & ravnica vs phyrexia
krishnath's shattered realm and cave world
secretinfiltrator's shandalar and righteous war
venedrex's ocean world and steampunk world
void_nothing's megastructures world and druidic world
monoredmage's epic fantasy world and therosian wilderness
feyd_ruin's pure phyrexia and marit lage-dominated terisiare
dangerousdice's law magic world & ravnica vs phyrexia
krishnath's shattered realm and cave world
secretinfiltrator's shandalar and righteous war
venedrex's ocean world and steampunk world
void_nothing's megastructures world and druidic world
monoredmage's epic fantasy world and therosian wilderness
feyd_ruin's pure phyrexia and marit lage-dominated terisiare
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oh, SORRY! HERES {cough cough} my votes for folding_chair
artistic revolution
Kiora's Meditation Plane
artistic revolution
Kiora's Meditation Plane
User | First Choice | Second Choice |
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folding_music | Cultural Revolution | Kiora's Wanderlust |
dangerousdice | Law World | Ravnica v Phyrexia |
Krishnath | Cave World | Shattered Realm |
SecretInfiltrator | Shandalar | Righteous War |
Venedrex | Animal World | Ocean World |
Void_Nothing | Innistrad Frozen | Druidic World |
MonoRedMage | Temperature World | Wilds of Theros |
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What are we doing? I don't get why we don't just have a multi-winner binary vote on the whole set of suggestions i. e. we all just choose an arbitrary number of suggestions we like and whatever gets named most gets done. This is not a sponsored tournament. We don't get more ad revenue by going through a mandatory group phase. : D
Btw, I don't know what role on the design team I'm suited for. I'm probably most comfortable with Set Design. I also have a weak spot for precons. I can put in some work maintaining a set skeleton.
folding_music | dangerousdice | Krishnath | SecretInfiltrator |
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High-artifact plane | muraganda | The Shattered Realm | Shandalar: Astral Dominion |
Kiora's Meditation plane | ravnica vs phyrexians | Five Families | Mirrodin Pure |
Venedrex | void_nothing | MonoRedMage | Feyd_Ruin |
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Animal World | Megastructures | World of temperature extremes | Pure Phyrexia |
Steampunk | Innistrad Frozen Over | Wildlands of Theros | Space Set |
Btw, I don't know what role on the design team I'm suited for. I'm probably most comfortable with Set Design. I also have a weak spot for precons. I can put in some work maintaining a set skeleton.
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spacemonaut Bauble reclaimer
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Speaking of which: what's happening right now is some form of runoff voting. But there's other voting systems too, some of which might be more appropriate: for example there is approval voting wherein everyone simply lists (with no ranking) all the options they'd be happy with, and once everyone's done that, you have an option the majority are happy with. There's a video about those voting systems here including what they do well and how they can break down or how strategic voting can undermine them.SecretInfiltrator wrote: ↑3 years agoWhat are we doing? I don't get why we don't just have a multi-winner binary vote on the whole set of suggestions i. e. we all just choose an arbitrary number of suggestions we like and whatever gets named most gets done. This is not a sponsored tournament. We don't get more ad revenue by going through a mandatory group phase. : D
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Approval voting was exactly what I was trying to describe. Thanks for providing the proper term. Maybe I'll commit it to memory this time.
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void_nothing Look On My Sash...
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folding_music:
1. Twobrid Artifact Plane
2. Kiora's Meditation Plane
dangerousdice:
1. Law Plane
2. Ravnica vs. Phyrexians
Krishnath:
1. Five Families
2. Shattered Realm
SecretInfiltrator:
1. Righteous War
2. Mirrodin Pure
Venedrex:
1. Animal World
2. Ocean World
MonoRedMage:
1. Epic Fantasy World
2. Wildlands of Theros
Feyd_Ruin:
1. Pure Phyrexia
2. Marit Lage Awakens
1. Twobrid Artifact Plane
2. Kiora's Meditation Plane
dangerousdice:
1. Law Plane
2. Ravnica vs. Phyrexians
Krishnath:
1. Five Families
2. Shattered Realm
SecretInfiltrator:
1. Righteous War
2. Mirrodin Pure
Venedrex:
1. Animal World
2. Ocean World
MonoRedMage:
1. Epic Fantasy World
2. Wildlands of Theros
Feyd_Ruin:
1. Pure Phyrexia
2. Marit Lage Awakens
Psst, check the second page of Custom Card Contests & Games! Because of the daily contests, a lot of games fall down to there.
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Because I was curious.
"+" denotes that I voted for these myself, though we shouldn't need a tie-breaker once MonoRedMage votes
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folding_music | dangerousdice | Krishnath | SecretInfiltrator |
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High-artifact plane (4) Cultural Revolution (4) Kiora's Meditation plane (4) | Law Magic Plane (4) muraganda (3) ravnica vs phyrexians (5) | The Shattered Realm (6) Cave World (4) Five Families (2) | Shandalar: Astral Dominion (4+) Mirrodin Pure (4+) Righteous War (4) |
Venedrex | void_nothing | MonoRedMage | Feyd_Ruin |
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Ocean World (5) Animal World (3) Steampunk (4) | Megastructures (2) Druidic World (5) Innistrad Frozen Over (5) | Epic fantasy world (5) World of temperature extremes (4) Wildlands of Theros (5) | Pure Phyrexia (3) Marit Lage Awakens (5) Space Set (4) |
"+" denotes that I voted for these myself, though we shouldn't need a tie-breaker once MonoRedMage votes
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folding_music -
Artistic Plane
Kiora's Meditation Plane
dangerousdice -
Rav vs Phy
Muraganda
Krishnath -
Shattered Realms
Five Families
Secretinfiltrator -
Shandalar
Righteous War
Venedrex -
Steampunk World
Animal World
void_nothing -
Druidic World
Megastructures World
Feyd_Ruin -
Pure Phyrexia
Marit Lage Awakens
Artistic Plane
Kiora's Meditation Plane
dangerousdice -
Rav vs Phy
Muraganda
Krishnath -
Shattered Realms
Five Families
Secretinfiltrator -
Shandalar
Righteous War
Venedrex -
Steampunk World
Animal World
void_nothing -
Druidic World
Megastructures World
Feyd_Ruin -
Pure Phyrexia
Marit Lage Awakens
...but now where do we want to go?
Shattered Realms has the most votes, no ties. Do we want to pick the top 8 and runoff, or does 7 votes from 7 people seem decisive?
Shattered Realms has the most votes, no ties. Do we want to pick the top 8 and runoff, or does 7 votes from 7 people seem decisive?
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void_nothing Look On My Sash...
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I certainly would prefer a runoff.
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Krishnath Mechanical Dragon
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I would prefer a runoff as well.
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OK, I'm game for a runoff, assuming enough of us are as well. How do we want to break the ties? Should we let everyone with a tie pick their favorite idea between a tie, or have everyone vote in tiebreakers?
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Krishnath Mechanical Dragon
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A tiebreaker in which everyone votes seem to be the best option.
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spacemonaut Bauble reclaimer
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Can I suggest approval voting based on a shortlist? It's the voting system made for this kind of use case. Runoff voting is not. That applies for tiebreaks too.
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void_nothing Look On My Sash...
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Considering we have a shortlist, i.e. the top 8 or however we want to cut it - that actually sounds pretty good.spacemonaut wrote: ↑3 years agoCan I suggest approval voting based on a shortlist? It's the voting system made for this kind of use case. Runoff voting is not. That applies for tiebreaks too.
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void_nothing Look On My Sash...
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@spacemonaut is more familiar with this idea but the notion is basically just to post a list of which out of the top 8 we would favor right?
Psst, check the second page of Custom Card Contests & Games! Because of the daily contests, a lot of games fall down to there.
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