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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

Seeing some Main Challenge violations in the first round; @Raptorchan's card can be fixed with just a not really functional wording change but @Kypster's is not a creature card.
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Post by bravelion83 » 4 years ago

Clarification for the final round for March:
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Main Challenge: ... put +1/+1 counters on a creature.
Does a creature that can put +1/+1 counters only on itself count? Or does it literally have to be "put N +1/+1 counters on target creature"?
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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

A creature card that can put +1/+1 counters on itself absolutely counts.
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Post by Raptorchan » 4 years ago

void_nothing wrote:
4 years ago
Seeing some Main Challenge violations in the first round; Raptorchan's card can be fixed with just a not really functional wording change but Kypster's is not a creature card.
I see... So the firebreathing ability should be printed as is, without additions?

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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

Raptorchan wrote:
4 years ago
void_nothing wrote:
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Seeing some Main Challenge violations in the first round; Raptorchan's card can be fixed with just a not really functional wording change but Kypster's is not a creature card.
I see... So the firebreathing ability should be printed as is, without additions?
Exactly. (In your case the card gives itself that ability by default, but should have the exact ability printed on itself.)
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Post by Ryder » 4 years ago

@void_nothing Is drawing 1 card / creating 1 token / putting 1 +1/+1 counter enough to meet the March Final's main challenge?

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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

Yes; one is all you need quantitatively for each of the two (or more) effects.
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Post by Ryder » 4 years ago

@jamblock MCC finals' deadline is today!

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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

We will most likely need one more MCC judge for April. Please sign up if you aren't playing. Even if you've never judged before, feel free to try it out!
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Post by Kypster » 4 years ago

void_nothing wrote:
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Seeing some Main Challenge violations in the first round; Raptorchan's card can be fixed with just a not really functional wording change but Kypster's is not a creature card.
Whoops. Of course I waited until after the deadline to come check in. My apologies for missing the point of this weeks challenge. I had limited time and threw something together quickly. See you all in May xD

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Post by bravelion83 » 4 years ago

Ok, I went back and forth about being the third judge this month. I probably should have done it. I've never seen a month with only two judges and brackets of ten players in the six years I've been an active member of the custom card community, or if it has already happened I don't remember it and it must have been a long time ago anyway. Now I feel bad for not having done it, but I liked my card too much to give it up and not participate.
@void_nothing In the case I get eliminated this round, I'm available as a third judge for the other rounds of April if you need it. I'm also thinking about hosting May, but I'm not ready to claim it yet.
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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

@Ryder is your March MCC winner!
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Post by Ink-Treader » 4 years ago

My April MCC Round 1 judgments are all done. Would have got it done a bit sooner, but my week has been a bit crazy.

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Post by Ryder » 4 years ago

That final round was tough. Good sport @bravelion83! I made like 20 iterations of my card and at the deadline I still wasn't fully satisfied, but looks like it was good enough. Thanks!

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Post by bravelion83 » 4 years ago

Congratulations to you @Ryder. If I had to lose, I'm very happy of having lost against you.
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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

My judgments for April Round 1 and the posting of Round 2 to come in the morning.
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Post by void_nothing » 4 years ago

April's delayed second round is now up. Apologies for taking so long!
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Post by The_Hittite » 4 years ago

And once again I forgot power and toughness. I even proofread it a couple times and still missed it. I think I just get to the flavor text and kind of assume that the card is done. It was supposed to be a 0/5, for what it's worth.

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Post by slimytrout » 3 years ago

It's somewhat painful for me to do this, as it will likely lead to my being eliminated, but Scarbo had a point taken away unfairly in Quality: the flip 'walkers refer to themselves by gender (see Liliana, Heretical Healer) for whatever reason, so the submitted version is correct.

To leave myself some shred of hope of advancing, I am also going to argue (although I understand if you still disagree) that I don't think that my submission is too powerful to be an uncommon, or at least not a full point's deduction away -- yes, it's good if you're beating your opponent down and can punish them for stumbling, but it's absolutely worthless in a board stall or if you're behind -- compare it to Reconnaissance Mission just in this set, which is of comparable power level and has cycling and yet is not a particularly high pick. My card is in a common vein of red uncommon enchantments (Burning Vengeance, Ghirapur Aether Grid, etc.) which are situationally quite powerful but are absolutely useless in the wrong board state. Moreover, the division between uncommon/rare is not entirely one of power level anyway -- if you read this article, Mark explains that in fact limited build-around cards like these are ones that belong at uncommon, especially in this case where having multiple in your deck would not be absurdly powerful (in fact, an opening hand with two of these would probably be pretty awful).

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Post by slimytrout » 3 years ago

@scarbo: Just a heads up that things like this should be brought up in this thread, not the round thread, as I did above.

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Post by scarbo » 3 years ago

slimytrout wrote:
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scarbo: Just a heads up that things like this should be brought up in this thread, not the round thread, as I did above.
oops, thanks! new to this..

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Post by Ryder » 3 years ago

@scarbo @slimytrout gendered pronouns were unique to Magic Origins, which had a focus on the characters and used nonstandard wording to deepen the immersion. "It" and "its" is in fact the way to do it.

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Post by void_nothing » 3 years ago

Ryder wrote:
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scarbo slimytrout gendered pronouns were unique to Magic Origins, which had a focus on the characters and used nonstandard wording to deepen the immersion. "It" and "its" is in fact the way to do it.
Not so. Viz. Garruk Relentless and Nicol Bolas, the Ravager. Plus "he" and "him" on various Gideons.
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Post by Ryder » 3 years ago

Wow, I missed those. That is really random then. Thanks!

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Post by StonerOfKruphix » 3 years ago

scarbo wrote:
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StonerOfKruphix wrote:
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Polish
(2/3) Quality - It should be "it" and "its", not "him" and "his" (-0.25 for each instance).
not to nitpick but the flip-planeswalkers do use gendered pronouns

This is not a nitpick, but a well-deserved critique. I missed that, I apologize for it, and I've adjusted your score accordingly.

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