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The storm scale only refers to standard legal cards. You'll note that as this is a set with no new standard legal cards, storm is fair game as a mechanic.
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hell yeah janky artifact duals!
Also, Asmor's card is great. Excellent flavor fit, interesting design, and quirkily nostalgic. I imagine her and Gyome as a mirrored pair of sorts, the good and evil chefs of the multiverse. It's cool to see non-martial historical professions getting some more representation, it makes the multiverse feel more like a place, rather than just a battlefield.
Also, Asmor's card is great. Excellent flavor fit, interesting design, and quirkily nostalgic. I imagine her and Gyome as a mirrored pair of sorts, the good and evil chefs of the multiverse. It's cool to see non-martial historical professions getting some more representation, it makes the multiverse feel more like a place, rather than just a battlefield.
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TheAmericanSpirit Supreme Dumb Guy
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Oh wow, wasn't expecting artifact dual lands. With indestructible too.
Gosh. This is officially hair-raising for me now. Can't wait to see what's next!
Gosh. This is officially hair-raising for me now. Can't wait to see what's next!
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While I think I do recall that being the specific wording of the storm scale, I don't really know why it would be a problem in standard. All the things that are good with storm - at least as far as I can think - are almost all outside of standard. At least from a power level perspective, standard seems like the safest place to have it.
As far as enjoyable and interesting play patterns, I'd say the best place for the mechanic is somewhere between the large intestine and the toilet bowl.
Underworld cookbook guy seems like a potentially cute build. Not good but cute.
As far as enjoyable and interesting play patterns, I'd say the best place for the mechanic is somewhere between the large intestine and the toilet bowl.
Underworld cookbook guy seems like a potentially cute build. Not good but cute.
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PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote
Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena
Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
Oh, I don't know how I didn't see it but Teferi's Veil combos very nicely with out of time Swing with all your bros, phase them out, then profit. Of course that works with Eerie Interlude like all board wipes, but veil is a lot cheaper and can be set up ahead of time.
The artifact duals are a nice surprise. I normally stay away from CIPT duals, as there are so many options to choose from, but I do have a couple of decks where them being artifacts matters, and there are plenty of other possibilities there. Good in Osgir, obviously. Plus, more cheap and common duals is never a bad thing for the format.
I have 68 active EDH decks, with more in progress. I don't consider this a problem. Do you?
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
I am also one of those barbarians who enjoys winning by turning creatures sideways.
Out of Time in my Zur enchantments list is going to be very oppressive. Essentially a tutorable wrath, and in that deck, I can flicker/recast it at will.
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Jodah (flavor text tribal) | Slivers/Atogs/Allies/Spirits (5c tribal modular) | Xantcha (group slug) | Gitrog (non-combo)
Zur (cycling) | Yennett (spyhinx control) | Geist (1v1) | Kamahl (1v1) | Grenzo (goblins) | Bolas (discard)
Kadena (morph) | Kenrith (legendary activated abilities) | Nethroi (reanimator) | Xyris (combat tricks) | Ayula (bears)
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Some nice new toys for now but I got just a couple of cards for my EDH decks, I'm waiting to see more.
However, from my Peasant player point of view, a common with the storm mechanic (Chatterstorm ) is quite frightening ...
However, from my Peasant player point of view, a common with the storm mechanic (Chatterstorm ) is quite frightening ...
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JovialJovian Captain, I object!
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Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar is a fun reference, the card is so cute that it has no mana cost because the name is too long.
It signals more Food to come, which is nice because Food was underdeveloped in my opinion.
It signals more Food to come, which is nice because Food was underdeveloped in my opinion.
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I can imagine people trying to properly pronounce this card's name, and failing to do so everytime. I got a real laugh when I saw it revealed!JovialJovian wrote: ↑2 years agoAsmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar is a fun reference, the card is so cute that it has no mana cost because the name is too long.
It signals more Food to come, which is nice because Food was underdeveloped in my opinion.
If I make a Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar deck I'm gonna practice pronouncing that name until I have it nailed down then I'll correct my opponents everytime they try to refer to my commander.
Has a neat interaction with Pithing Needle, Meddling Mage and similar cards, chances are, you're opponent physically won't be able to name Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar.
Edit: apparently, the joke wasn't obvious. If you did want to try to rule lawyer or something with meddling mage I'm pretty sure the rules have changed since that one borborygmos incident with pithing needle so it wouldn't work anyways, it was a joke good grief.
I have no idea why this particular thread has so much more anger then other threads but whatever.
Has a neat interaction with Pithing Needle, Meddling Mage and similar cards, chances are, you're opponent physically won't be able to name Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar.
Edit: apparently, the joke wasn't obvious. If you did want to try to rule lawyer or something with meddling mage I'm pretty sure the rules have changed since that one borborygmos incident with pithing needle so it wouldn't work anyways, it was a joke good grief.
I have no idea why this particular thread has so much more anger then other threads but whatever.
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All cards are bad if you try hard enough.
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Cheesing your opponents out of Pithing Needle effects because of a mispronunciation seems needlessly legalistic and petty.Dunadain wrote: ↑2 years agoHas a neat interaction with Pithing Needle, Meddling Mage and similar cards, chances are, you're opponent physically won't be able to name Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar.
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Indeed, good point! I have a friend who often struggles naming MTG cards, we like to tease him about it. I just can't imagine him naming this card, it would be hillarious!Dunadain wrote: ↑2 years agoIf I make a Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar deck I'm gonna practice pronouncing that name until I have it nailed down then I'll correct my opponents everytime they try to refer to my commander.
Has a neat interaction with Pithing Needle, Meddling Mage and similar cards, chances are, you're opponent physically won't be able to name Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar.
That's actually not possible - you are allowed to describe a card's features with Pithing Needle and co without saying their actual name. They could say "your commander with the name I can't say" and it would be a legal choice per the rules.
Oftentimes, when posting something sarcastically I'll use blue text, apparently still wasn't obvious enough, I appreciate that you didn't come at me about it though.
All cards are bad if you try hard enough.
Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
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Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
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It's also very solid in Ghen, Arcanum Weaver or Estrid, the Masked.Outcryqq wrote: ↑2 years agoOut of Time in my Zur enchantments list is going to be very oppressive. Essentially a tutorable wrath, and in that deck, I can flicker/recast it at will.
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Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
Retired Decks
Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
Retired Decks
Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
Oh I'm not cross about it, just figured I would mention the rule so people didn't get the wrong idea that this was possible.
I thought green text was the color of sarcasm?
Current Decks
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
Retired Decks
Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
Morophon, the infinite Kavu Eowyn, human tribal Legolas, voltron control Tymna/Ravos cleric tribal Neheb, Chicago Bulls tribal Edric pauper
Retired Decks
Edgar Markov Kaalia, angel board wipes Ghen, prison Captain Sisay Nymris, draw go Sarulf, voltron control Niv-Mizzet, combo Winota Sidisi, Zombie Tribal
Is it? Lol.
Oops, my bad.
All cards are bad if you try hard enough.
Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
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Important decks: Ebondeath, Dracolich, Emiel, The Blessed, Phelddagriff
Other: Ruhan, Zask, Kellan, Liesa, Galadriel, Orca, Sauron, Thantis, Rukarumel, Sisay, Stickfingers, Safana, Thantis, Dihada
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TheAmericanSpirit Supreme Dumb Guy
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Using any color of text for sarcasm is going to make you seem like a needless menace to colorblind people. Don't they have it hard enough already?
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